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John Doneghan

Absolutely spot on. I watch Wheeler Dealers for the mechanics,not Mike. If Velocity want to reduce the time showing the mechanics of the cars then I truly believe that this is the beginning of the end for Wheeler Dealers. People are'nt going to want to sit and watch Mike Brewer for the majority of the show. Hopefully when viewing figures start to drop,this is just to save money remember, maybe Velocity might change their minds,I doubt it.
Changing a winning formula usually means its not a good thing to do,but.......

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Peter Shulver

I must support all the comments regarding both Mike and Ed but I still watched it for Ed and Mike was just doing the intro bits .The show started south when they went to the USA full time ! All the best Ed in you future endeavor's I will certainly watch them. Not sure i will follow the path of MB.

Lord Zen

Just come to this story, I'm horrified at what the programme will become. I used to put up with the Mike Brewer repetitive cliche dialogue and tedious shots of him looking at car ads to get to the real meat of it for me, the actual mechanics of a master car engineer working on practical fixes. I say used because I probably won't watch it now. I would guess that, envious of Top Gear type shows and thinking to move away from grease and spanners, the producers have made a wrong turn to cut costs I mean 'develop' the show. Whoever decided this should think about another career.

Max Washington

I also think Edd China was totally right to leave the programme...

I honestly think that without Edd China, Wheeler Dealers will die....
All the best Edd China and I hope to see you on another format Car programme soon......

Lake District

Let's face it, Mike Brewer's piece to camera with the "seller" usually came across as being so heavily practiced, scripted and cliched... 'old ahhhh yer aaand - aaah'll give yer a bag o' sand for that'

Basically Mike usually appeared to be a caricature acting the role of geezer used car dealer. Whereas Edd was entirely authentic and passionate about making car restoration approachable. Edd, you'll be sorely missed.

Jim Holder

"It may have had its faults..." May have? Original model had a cable driven gearbox. Changing gear was a lottery, it would (eventually) find one but not the one you thought you'd selected. Cables were replaced by levers. This was an improvement in that the surprise was muted by the fact that whilst going forward reverse was no longer selected. The only good thing about tis pile of stuff was that,with the front seats folded backward, one had a half decent double bed. Somewhere to sleep while you waited for the AA with a replacement part. Read more


Most critics of the Maxi have never actually owned one, I ran two, one in the family from 1973 to 2002 when it's subframe failed, this car covered 130,000 miles and never broke down, it always started, was comfortable, practical and nice to drive. My second one, a 1977 model was similarly good, its only problem attributable to the dubious French Ducellier distributor, this car was bought in 1998 and run as my daily transport until an idiot in a Peugeot wrote it off, I still miss the cars character and space.

This was a car which certainly should and would have sold better if only Leyland had developed it properly and not been so strike bound!

Edward Hughes

I had one. Practical, but not a looker, which was probably where it came unstuck. Usual BL cost-saving - front doors same as Austin 1800 as I recall... Brilliant in snow, and the five-speed box was a market-leader. The cable gear-change was soon dropped, and in the context of its day, the latter 1750 was quite nippy. Some electrical issues - they used some dodgy wiper/light switches when Lucas were on strike, but then Lucas "Prince of darkness" kit wasn't always outstanding in itself...

Edward Hughes

Peugeot 605.... Had a petrol low pressure turbo (150 b.h.p. as I recall) auto as a company car, mainly because the alternative was walking. Criminally short of headroom (as was the 405) because designed for the French market - where they didn't want sunroofs - and then supplied in the UK with one... There was an £80 modification offered to remove the totally unnecessary electric height adjustment on the driver's seat, to give a bit more clearance, which made the position just about OK. And I'm not that tall. No fold-through seats, which was a bit limiting, though there was a ski-hatch. I must say it drove reasonably well, but was as bland as bland can be visually, with no character at all. Only had it for six months before I moved on, but no issues in that time (and quite a lot of mileage) and colleagues with them didn't seem to have issues either. Some actually opted for the diesel, which was very economical. I preferred petrol as it was free for company and private use, and an earlier Peugeot 505, whilst a great car in itself, had put me off diesel given the performance deficit - which was HUGE in the 505's case, less so on the 605. Worth noting that the build-date was about nine months before the date of registration - Peugeot had no end of trouble shifting these things, and the discounts were HUGE. I think we paid about £11k (in a fleet deal with a fairly large fleet) for what was ostensibly about £19k's worth of vehicle as I recall. So good value, in that sense. And reasonably swift, quiet, and after the seat mod., quite comfortable. And always remember, second-class driving is better than first-class walking!

Edward Hughes

Just to add to my earlier comment on the 605.... And the Maxi. Both were "parts-bin" jobs, curiously both in terms of the front doors. The Maxi shared with the Austin 1800 and the 605's doors were from the 405. In the Maxi's case it isn't that obvious in the flesh (though the first design for the car was a much swisher, swoopy affair that BL in their infinite wisdom decided they couldn't afford to tool-up for), but it was always notable to me that the 605's rear doors were much bigger than, and out of proportion to the front ones. Take a look at the photo - there must be five or six inches in it, and I can't think of another four-door saloon with this kind of imbalance. "Well-proportioned and handsome"???? maybe maybe not, beauty being in the eye of the beholder, but for this reason it always looked like a "cut and shut" to me, or maybe the front designed by one team, and the back by another. The following model, the 607, really was a handsome beast in my opinion, and equally unsuccessful.


Some folks are getting a bit confused. NONE of the doors on the 605 were common with the 405 (look at the swage line).
ALL 4 doors on the Maxi were common with the 1800/2200 (AND the Austin 3 litre, which added quarter lights in the front doors). Gear change linkage was cable on early Maxis, change to rods on minor facelift with introduction of wooden dashboard and new grille and body side mouldings.
I think all cars of the era had dodgy electrics, not just BL. Although unreliable, relatively easy to fix. Today's electronics are inherently more reliable, but a nightmare when they go awry.

Kaz Sliwinski

Went to the 2016 nec classic show met with some nice guys in the 800 club
have been a fan of the 800 all my life ARE YOU READY 25 years and now finally
have got 4 off them salon / and coupe and several downer cars or my be not
I'm based in west wales far from the madding crowed need to have some contact with other 800 fans (met with The Rover 800 Owners Club www.rover800.org.uk ) are you the same people would like to hear from some body kind regards Kaz Read more

ron kenyon

Hi just found your link as a proud owner of a beautiful 820 Si fastback in white gold i would be pleased to meet fellow owners ,i live in Moreton on the Wirral but travel to many shows in the North West North Wales area please contact at

rekenyon@hotmail.co.uk HAppy Motoring and thanks Ron Kenyon

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