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Classic cars over 40 to be exempt from MoT testing

Published 14 September 2017

Cars over 40 years will be exempted from MoT tests - despite a government consultation that showed more people were against the idea than in favour of it.

Under the new rules, cars built up to 1977 will no longer be subject to the annual roadworthiness test, with the rolling exemption continuing each year in line with exemption from road tax. The move takes effect from May 2018.

The government decided to press ahead with the exemption despite more respondents to the consultation opposing rather than supporting the move (1130 v 899).

According to government figures, the move means that around 293,000 more vehicles (1% of the total UK car parc) will qualify for exempt status, on top of the 197,000 pre-1960 cars that are already MoT exempt.

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The move means that cars such as the Porsche 928 and Rover SD1 3500, both of which were introduced in 1977, will become MoT exempt, despite having powerful V8 engines.

Jesse Norman MP, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Roads, Local Transport and Devolution, said: “After considering the responses, we have decided to exempt most vehicles over 40 years old from the requirement for annual roadworthiness testing.

“This means lighter vehicles (such as cars and motorcycles) and those larger vehicles such as buses which are not used commercially. Heavy Goods Vehicles and Public Service Vehicles falling under operator licensing regulations will remain within the scope of roadworthiness testing.

“This will ensure a proportionate approach to testing for older vehicles, which works for public safety and vehicle owners.”

However, vehicles that still earn their keep during commercial operation, such as heritage buses and commercials, will still need to undertake the test, as will those that have been ‘substantially changed’, though the government is yet to determine exactly what that term might mean.

“We do not propose to set out in legislation a definition of ‘substantial change’,” added the minister. But we will be including this in guidance so that it can remain more flexible and responsive.”

The 40-year exemption was selected ahead of other proposals, which included changing the cut-off date to 30 years, introducing biennial testing and a more basic roadworthiness test for older cars, the latter of which gained most support during the consultation period.

Enthusiasts who wish to get their cars MoT tested, if only for their own peace of mind, will still be able to do so, but the test will no longer be a legal requirement.

Comments

Kevin Sharman    on 16 September 2017

Having been a mot tester myself (retired) and the owner of a 1976 Cortina I find the idea stupid.
The number of classic cars I have tested that outwardly look to be in mint condition,Highly polished, nice interior but mechanical deathtraps owing to the fact that the owner knows no better is limitless.
One example that I remember was being called to mot a lovely 1972 mk1 Capri with only 21000 miles on the clock from new. The owner had recently acquired the vehicle and driven 10 miles to us.
Upon inspection I found the steering rack so worn that the steering arm was about to come away from the rack.
My point is imagine the situation or similar of 40 yr plus vehicles being free of mot testing in the above situation ,who knows what could of happened.
E type jags full of filler Triumph Stags leaking petrol etc etc But all good to look at on the drive Memories Memories and all relatively recent
Not a good idea
My Cortina will still get its annual test and any faults found will be rectified.
I wonder if insurance companies would give a discount for vehicles that have a annual test in the future.


KGS

   on 18 September 2017

What on earth is the rationale for this idiotic idea? Just because most classic cars are very carefully looked after and do not get driven many miles on the public highway does not make this ok. I was never an authorised tester myself but have also seen a number of absolute shockers over the years. Allowing a dangerous car on the road just because it is old is just madness. I just hope that nobody is killed or seriously handicapped in one of the accidents caused by one of these no longer mandatory tested vehicles. It's a matter of 'when' rather than 'if'.

Mike Lavers    on 18 September 2017

This is so true. There will always be some who will drag out a barn find and just put it
back on the road or sell it onto some unsuspecting buyer. I had the misfortune to write off my 1956 XK140 FHC after a 4 year rebuild. The first question I was asked by my Insurance company was "Have you a current MOT?" I had, it was issued 6 weeks earlier. I had no problem getting the payout, I am sure they would have stalled and wanted to have a engineers report on the car if I had not got an MOT.

Every car needs to be checked by a third party engineer, My Stag needs new rubber drive shaft gaters again even though they were replaced for the previous MOT. They were made of poor quality rubber and within 12 months had perished. I have also had a similar problem with swivel joint rubbers as well. Not good.

Cars like ours need to be checked to keep us all safe. Am I being very cynical, or is this a cunning plan to start restricting or prevent the use of "our type of cars"? When there is a bad accident, people are killed and the cause is an unroadworthy vehicle, there will be calls to take all these " dangerous, badly maintained and polluting old cars off the road. We will all be tarred with the same brush.

The majority of Classic car owners are really careful about maintaining their pride and joy but the green and the health and safety lobby will be very vocal. we are a soft and easy target. I hope I am wrong. MJL. Sidmouth.

   on 18 September 2017

Does this mean my 1965 Lambretta is exempt?

David Pidcott    on 18 September 2017

Dave.
Just another example of fat cat office bound decision makers with no personal or practical experience regarding the decisions they are forcing on the population as a whole and who sit on plush office seats with their brains firmly wedged between their buttocks. Hopefully the parents of the child who is killed by one of these vehicles will be able to put their grief behind them at some point.

   on 18 September 2017

Our NCT (your MoT) is very strict with no advisories, it's either pass or fail..no one has a problem with that. Also we have to use regulated test centres, not local garages so there are no back-hander ways of getting a pass,
The classic car movement is very strong and our cut of date in Ireland is 31 Dec 1979 which is fixed, any car registered after that date is liable for NCT. Our classic insurance's are all of limited annual mileage and generally speaking our cars are used for classic runs, cars & coffee meets etc, very few are used as everyday vehicles.
Instead of moaning about a few more cars in the UK being exempt from Mot testing I suggest that some the people making adverse comments should consider themselves lucky that their daily cars do not have to undergo the rigorous testing ours do, As an ex-pat I can well remember some of the rubbish cars I came across with a new MoT which wan't worth the paper it was printed on
Tony

   on 18 September 2017

I agree fully with all the points made above. There's one thing about this change which baffles me completely: bearing in mind that we all have to pay a fee to the MOT testing station to get our cars tested, what benefit will it be to the government to have fewer vehicles MOT tested each year? If the MOT test were provided free of charge at the government's expense, I could understand the reasoning behind reducing the number of tests each year. However, it's not, so what's the problem?

Alan Barnes    on 18 September 2017

This looks like yet another strange decision by the current government in Wasteminster.All of the replies so far I agree with, although the end of the artical did state "Enthusiasts who wish to get their cars MoT tested, if only for their own peace of mind, will still be able to do so, but the test will no longer be a legal requirement." So I don't see the problem as most classic car owners like myself would want to have an MOT anyway [I hope].I would have thought that the insurance companies would want to know that at least as already mentioned. I can see only one possible reason for this decision, and that is a futile attempt to get classic car owners to vote for the Conservative party in the next election by saving them the MOT fee....yipee?!... I hope the chancellor is on board with this as he will be loosing revenue.

carol-anne    on 18 September 2017

let`s have HJ`s and his teams comments please. always well-trusted answers !!

Robert Chester    on 18 September 2017

I shall still have my car annually tested for my own peace of mind.

Johnfrog    on 18 September 2017

Madness! Just because an owner cherishes an old car doesn't mean it's roadworthy. What a dangerous idea. Most such vehicles are laid up for many months each year and any decent mechanic will tell you that non-use is bad and causes components to fall. I will continue to have my 1970 E Type Jaguar MOT'd annually whatever this stupid government says.

Rob McBride    on 18 September 2017

98% of accidents are caused by the nut behind the wheel not the nut holding the wheel on.
Classic car owners generally maintain their cars up to a higher standard than modern car owners and of course much lower annual mileage. My 1975 MGB has only failed it's MOT once with a broken front spring.

DrTeeth    on 18 September 2017

That failure means that you did not spot the broken sping and needed an MOT to do so.

peter hughes    on 18 September 2017

Sheer lunancy

My cars will still go for an annual inspection and I hope all other responsible owners will do likewise

Come on garages offer the service and advertise that

When the first fatality happens will we see the PC brigade leading the rush to ban nasty dangerous and noxious classics as death traps ???

aingarth    on 18 September 2017

A completely bonkers decision.
The original MOT test was for cars over 10 years old on the basis that many important safety components were likely to have deteriorated. The age was gradually brought down to 3 years although that will shortly go up to 4 years. But to exclude some of the oldest cars on the road, most without any of the modern safety devices such as airbags or ABS or crumple zones is complete and absolute madness.

JANDK    on 18 September 2017

Having just got back from having my 1972 Triumph Stag MOT'd, I hear this news and cannot understand this madness. I hope that my insurance company and all others that insure 40+ year old cars will make it a condition of the policy that the car has an MOT every year. At least a competant person checks over the risk areas and advises or condems before a serious situation occurs. I do however have some concerns at the competancy of some testing station as I followed a Kia diesel car which must have been under 10 years old that was pouring out smoke and noxious fumes but I assume had an MOT to be on the road. My Stag does not do this nor does my daily driver diesel. John H.

Edited by JANDK on 18/09/2017 at 17:54

Nick Allen    on 18 September 2017

Very few accidents are caused by mechanical failure, but still think a shorter cheaper test of brakes lights tyres and steering would suit most classic car owners ,although these vehicle are usually very well maintained by their owners a second opinion is always worthwhile.

Classical    on 18 September 2017

A ridiculous idea and I really cannot see any good reason for it. The smart outward appearance of a classic car is no indication of it's roadworthiness and safety. Classic car insurers should insist on a current MOT before issuing cover which would solve the problem but such is the competition between insurers for business that's unlikely to happen. I speak as an owner of a 1949 Rover (already MOT exempt but regularly MOT'd for my own peace of mind) and a 1970 Morris Minor (which could now be MOT exempt but which I'll also continue to have MOT'd). My answer would be for all classic vehicles over 40 years old to undergo a basic roadworthiness test, no vehicle should be exempt.

Edited by Classical on 18/09/2017 at 19:41

Harrovian    on 18 September 2017

One wonders why they bothered to consult - and why so few people actually responded to the consultation.
The idea is total madness, driven naturally by an EU idea, with which our stupid government follows (The sooner we're out the better).
My 1958 Wolseley and 1955 MG are always tested and will continue to be.
I had someone at a show this year say to me that they had decided to get their classic checked over, since it had not been looked at since the original MOT exemption came in!
The driver/owner remains responsible for ensuring that a vehicle is safe and roadworthy, but how can one properly test the brakes without a rolling road?
I wonder what view the police and insurers would take if a classic involved in an accident were found to be unsafe and in-tested.

CaptainT    on 19 September 2017

My 1975 BMW 2002tii was recently MOT'd. It failed the first time around due to an inefficient front brake. The brakes felt fine to me on the road. The hydraulic fluid had been changed prior to the previous years MOT with a full brake system check which resulted in a new rear brake cylinder being fitted. It passed a few days later this year after remedial work. It had covered 2000 miles in the year.

As with all above the car will be MOT'd every year, as she has been, as required, since I acquired her in 1980. The MOT gives me peace of mind about my own safety never mind anyone else whether they are in the car or outside it.

Callinicus    on 19 September 2017

I own three classic cars, two of which are pre-1977 and all of which are maintained to garage standards ( I worked in a family garage in the ten years before the start of the exemption period.) The present MOT regulations are unsuitable for older cars and so I am happy that the test is being discontinued, though I would have been happy if a different test which examined brakes, lights, steering and structural integrity replaced the present MOT.

I am completing a very long term Morris Traveller restoration and this will be ready late in 2018. I shall take it to a MOT station and have it tested (even though it won't be strictly necessary) and any deficiencies will be remedied. After that I shall have periodic examinations to ensure that the vehicles are roadworthy but I will continue my regular maintenance schedules.

Damage1_1    on 19 September 2017

As a working automotive engineer and owner of several classic cars and bikes i would have thought it should have been made compulsory to have these machines certificated for road worthyness by a local garage

Dr Robert Taylor    on 20 September 2017

As a graduate engineer who has been rebuilding cars and motorcycles since my teens I know the precise condition of every part of each of my vehicles and none has ever failed an MOT.
Although I will continue to take my old cars for an MOT this ruling does however mean that I have the freedom to road test my vehicles legally (when the MOT has expired) prior to booking a new MOT test.
I therefore see it as an advantage for owners who are mechanically competent and I believe that such people will also continue to get their vehicles tested because insurance companies are bound to increase premiums for cars without an MOT.

jraston    on 20 September 2017

NOT a good idea, basic test would be better than no M.O.T. I have M.O.T. for my Aston DB6 from 1972 to date & will continue to do so.

Craig Ainge    on 21 September 2017


Dept for Transport [DfT] Roadworthiness Testing 40 year exemption

In light of the recent, 14th September 2017, outcome of the Consultation [Sept 2016] relating to the Roadworthiness Testing of Vehicles of Historic Interest [VHI] I am particularly interested in your experience / views regarding using your [VHI] 40 year old vehicle, which under this new ruling from the DfT is exempt from roadworthiness testing, outside of the UK.

Given that some of us are contemplating European Touring in 2018 we are concerned of the implications of this new ruling.

1. Does your vehicle have to comply with the current rulings in the country you are visiting with your VHI?
2. Is there some exclusion / exemption based on a time scale?
3. What are the testing standards in France for instance?
4. What are the testing standards in Eire for instance?
5. What are the testing standards in Austria for instance?
6. What are the testing standards in Germany for instance?
7. What are the testing standards in Holland for instance?
8. What are the testing standards in Belgium for instance?


Best regards

Craig

gary mccarthy    on 29 September 2017

What has not been considered in the comments is the risk to safety presented by this initiative which I believe is negligible. The article states something like 500,000 vehicles will qualify for exemption. Applying some statistical thinking consider this; according to government statistics there are 36.7 million registered vehicles in the UK. Let us assume for the sake of this discussion that just 1% of all vehicles MOT,d or not on the road both classic [40+ years] and modern [younger than 40 years] are considered to be in a less than roadworthy condition.That works out at 5,000 classic vehicles and 36,200 modern vehicles. We then need to consider that classic vehicle owners in general cherish their vehicles and some will continue to have them tested, and they cover much smaller mileages. Whereas modern vehicle owners generally do not cherish their vehicles as such and cover much higher mileages, it seems to me that that modern vehicles present a much higher safety risk than classic.

Obviously I cannot attest to the veracity of my assumptions here but I think they are a reasonable statistical stab at the situation and offer some proportionality to the discussion. I would guess that the Government would have conducted a similar risk analysis before but giving the green light.

For me personally it circumvents a lot of hassle, in not having to drag myself and my several prides of joy down to the MOT tester every year with less than a 1000 miles on the clock since the last visit.

Alan Barnes    on 9 October 2017

Gary,

although you have obviously given this some thought and tried to break it down into "numbers".I can not agree with your conclusions at all.It is like saying that because 5% of road deaths are caused by drunken drivers, it means that the 95% of road deaths are caused by completely sober drivers and therefore it is much safer to be above the limit when driving ,ie drunk.The point is there is absolutely no reason what so ever not to have a proper road worthiness test on any vehicle that uses the public roads in the UK.There has been [excuse me if I am wrong] no reason at all given as to why the test is not required for older vehicles.I know that this is already the case for a few vehicle , and I have never understood that either,but to suggest that new[er] vehicles are more dangerous is ludicrous and can not be measure statistically in the manner that you have outlined. I hope that you have the appropriate test equipment at your disposal [Brakes etc] if you are not going to -"drag myself and my several prides of joy down to the MOT tester every year".

alan garnett    on 6 October 2017

A lot of missing the point here..........
The reason for exemption is computerisation.
Same as why Q plates have gone...........
A vehicle's technical statistics is stored on DVSA's computers, such as braking performance, emissions, weights etc. but put a classic on the ramp and the computer immediately fails it because it has no details on file, requiring the tester to go through lots of deletes/voids/going through to DVSA etc.

Last year was the first time my 1976 Chrysler had problems due to the introduction of computerised braking stats in the test, as although the manual dials showed the brakes to be as good as new car (quote from 20 something yr old tester) it wouldn't pass because the DVSA did not have braking performance statistics on record.
This resulted in a 30 minute delay (time is money, and MoT testing is a loss activity) in getting it 'passed' on the computer.
Also note how many dealers now don't do MoT's and send customers to local garages because they can only charge £50 odd for a test that takes about 45 minutes with computer work, yet they can charge £150 plus per hour if the person is doing services and not MoT's.

Alan Barnes    on 9 October 2017

Alan,

I was not aware that the issue was to do with the computerisation of the MOT system, and thanks for pointing it out.However, that being the case, why have the responsible bodies not modified the various computer programmes so that other older vehicles can be tested.It is not "rocket science" and should be easily integrated into the current system without much cost.It does not however justify the obvious risks to both the general public and vehicle owners, and I would love to hear a rational explanation as to what effect this will have on road safety etc etc....or are "they" just hoping that older vehicles will disappear and everyone will buy brand new electric ones as proposed by the latest Wasteminster roose ?!?!?

   on 16 October 2017

I am a little concerned as to there being no definition for 'substantially changed' vehicles. I own a kit car (RMB Gentry) built on a 1967 donor (Triumph Vitesse) but which was completed as a Gentry in 1975, so making it 'Historic' in its own right in its current form.
So, does 'substantially changed' apply as it is a kit car, or does it NOT apply as it has been in its kit car persona for more than 40 years? Personally, I think the time and (relatively little) expense to get the MoT is worth it for the peace of mind. (I don't have a car lift so inspecting the underside / suspension etc. is not really practical. I'm happy for my local tester to give it a good look over once a year).

Dayv Maff    on 17 October 2017

As a MOT Tester since 1979 and the owner of 3 classic cars and 4 classic motorcycles i think this is a really good idea, the owners are mostly a right pain when they bring them in, most dont like their precious old cronk to go into a garage anyway. Well done the government. Dont think many wheels will actually fall off.

Tin    on 21 October 2017

What is wrong with the total d***** on all these comments. My 1976 cortina. My e type blah blah. Idiots. It's a real pain getting my clapped out old bangers Sorry I meant to say classics. Through the annual ordeal. You know getting the lights to work ha they never do changing the mufflers so it doesn't deafen the tester St last some common sense. Powerful v8 the rover pleeeese my 69 Chrysler goes 135 now that real is frightening with all the slop and no brakes. Ha ha get a life you authority loving knobs

   on 24 October 2017

Best thing the government has done for a long time , about time they gave the motorists a break , most classic car onwers only use them at weekends , going to a show or cruise and never in the rain . And these vehicles are kept in tip top condition , my old girl only did 200 miles this year . So we'll done Westminster for helping us out for a change and not hitting us again in the pocket .

   on 9 November 2017

I think this is a brave move to relax the rules. I personally think pre 1960 cars some with cable brakes would be a danger and these are exempt right now. Since the 60's most cars have had a better brakes and suspension. I think most responsible owners will put their cars through a pre Mot to make sure a third party checks for leaks, structural damage etc. As it stands currently with the MOT you can still be stopped by the Police if a Car appears to be unroadworthy. Of course as others have suggested who knows what other rules will come into effect which may prevent cars from being used due to pollution and age.

mcguire    on 21 November 2017

If you submit your mot exempt car for a 'voluntary' test and it fails, are you then committing an offence for knowingly driving a defective vehicle? Does it then follow that when your 'fail' certificate expires after a year the situation reverts to how it was previously? Can an exempt vehicle be registered on the dvla computer for a test anyway?

   on 28 November 2017

As a side point to older motorcycles and MOT testers, I took my "youngest" bike in for an MOT in September to the local MOT Specialist that only does MOT's. As he didn't know his a*** from his elbow when it came to slightly older bikes, the tester left my air cooled engine running at a standstill for approximately half an hour, causing damage to the head. When I got the bike home there was oil p***ing down the barrels from what I can only assume until I strip it, is a warped cylinder head or blown head gasket. As far as I can work out, this complete oaf must have assumed that the factory standard oil cooler was a radiator so thought it was a liquid cooled engine. I have tried emailing their head office with complaints but they don't seem very willing to reply. My bike is only a 1991, god knows what these a***holes would do to my late 70's, early 80's bikes!

richard sutton    yesterday

Perhaps this will enable the insurance companies to avoid paying up in the event of a claim by claiming that the vehicle has not been kept in a perfect roadworthy condition. As detailed in the lengthy terms and conditions of insurance documents now.
Maybe political lobyists paid by corporate interests created this legislation.
After all,we dont live in a democracy, but a corpratocracy.

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